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Saturday. October 13th
The One Ring
whosoldherout wrote in orlando_news
I'm sure everyone has already heard about the drama that occured today. I am not going to post links to any of the photos/video of the crash but if anyone really wants to see them TMZ and X17online have plenty of articles about it.

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I think what annoys me the most is the perpetuation of the "he was trying to leave the scene" rumor - which, I suspect, is an attempt to make "news" to stretch or justify coverage of this beyond the incident, since he's been cleared of DUI and that will apparently be the end of it unless someone else caused the wreck and they're found. Even if one were to assume Orlando's the worst kind of irresponsible, it would be neither feasible nor possible to leave at that point - there were witnesses to the wreck, photographers already on the scene, and it was known he was driving that vehicle. He's not a stupid man, nor does he strike me as particularly coldblooded.

Exactly. I watched the video also, and it looked to me like when he was trying to walk away, he was doing so to try to get some privacy to call someone (hopefully 911) out of view of the stupid paparazzi, who were EVERYWHERE. There was even some guy in the video yelling "get out of here, you guys caused this, this is your fault" and stuff like that. Some other guy says to Orlando, "You need to go back or it will look like a hit and run" and "dude, go back" or something like that, and O. just looks really pissed off. I didn't think he looked drunk at all (maybe confused or in shock), and if he was, wouldn't all those cops and paramedics have smelled the alcohol on his breath?

I'm just wondering how far he walked "away." If he were running in the other direction and not looking back, yeah, I could see someone making an accusation and it possibly being true. But if he's walking off to think or wait for help or call for help, or even to a building to knock and ask for immediate help - then no.

To me it looked as though he was walking away from the paparazzi to trying and clear his head or something.
But what do i know? I'm a fan so obviously i'm bias ;-)

That's exactly what I thought. I have been in minor car accidents once or twice where I didn't have any injuries, but the sheer shock of the thing kind of sent me reeling and I acted weird for a couple of minutes--shaky and disoriented. It looked like that too--he was also trying to use the phone. Somebody called 911, so he could have been trying to call them, or even his mom (I read one report that said one of the girls was his sister?), because think about that--how would she like to turn on the news and see that they were in an accident without hearing it from him first? It could have been anything.

In any case he came right back and stood by his friends the whole rest of the time, even to the point where the EMS guy asked him to move out of the way so he could assist his friend. He also walked right up to the police officers and shook their hands, and was cooperative and alert with everyone. If he had been drinking or done anything wrong, I think he would not have done that.

It wasn't very far...it was like across the street onto the sidewalk...maybe a couple of hundred yards?

That's the part thats annoying me the most as well. Having been in two pretty serious accidents myself i can definately understand how he was feeling just after the crash. He definately looks like he's in shock and to make matters worse there are a bunch of people filming him and taking photos.
According to an eyewitness there were 10 paparazzi on the scene, 6 people taking photos and 4 filming the scene and yet Orlando is the bad guy?
Until proven otherwise i am going to believe the LAPD statements that say Orlando did nothing wrong.

I could be wrong, but unless it's proven he has a friend or relative working for the LAPD who's willing to lie for him, I don't believe they have a vested interest in protecting *him* by lying about his condition. This isn't some small town with one rich guy - he's just one celebrity in a town filled with them and he's pretty low on the influential food chain to "protect."

But didn't you know that Orlando is much more influential than Mel Gibson, Nick Nolte, Nicole Ritchie, Paris Hilton and various other celebrities who have been arrested for this before?
He clearly influenced the LAPD to lie about this *sarcasm*

He's been so scandal free that people are desperate to believe anything negative about him.

That's exaclty what makes me that angry!!
All those bloody comments about "He just tried to run away or he smelt of alcohol" or such stuff. I am quite sure LAPD would have smelt this as well!

And he was definitely in Shock!!!
It did not seem like he'd run away, he just walked away an all those paps took pics.
And he seemed really confused and well in shock!!
I just remember when I once had a car crash because of a deer! However I was so in shock that I sat there about 20 minutes before I called the police.

Oh well I really feel sorry for him!

what really irritates me are the people who believed the news that he tried to flee the scene. the media is trying to smear his good image. sorry but you all failed. bottomline is he is okay and he did not do anything wrong and he took care of his companions

The walking away part, I agree with the idea of him being in shock, wanting to get away from the chaos, but not the scene if that makes sense. There is no way he would have left those two girls there to fend for themselves. From what I could see on the video, he didn't walk very far away at all, and he did go back. No signs of being drunk, he was attentive and cooperative. No charges filed. It makes me ill that some are benefiting financially from making something more out of something that was already too much.

i'm with you on this one - the last thing you want when making a 911 call or to wherever after getting into an accident is to have 2,931 people photographing or filming you ... i don't see him walking away to make a phone call or for a bit of peace and quiet as fleeing the scene!

Walking away

(Anonymous)
I don’t necessarily think he is a horrible person, but he left two injured people in the car and just walked away. Try to justify it however you want. I have been in car accidents, and unless one is seriously hurt the first question anyone with any humanity asks is “is everyone ok”. You don’t walk away while someone is bleeding. If he wanted to call someone, he could have done it in the car where he could relay information about injuries. He wasn’t injured, maybe a bit dazed, but even dazed you think about the other people in the car first. It is not as if he is a child, he is thirty years old. I found it very telling that he did not return until some told him the consequences of not doing so. I understand his fans love him, but you do have to look at it realistically. As far as drugs or alcohol I suspect that his celebrity may protect him from that, but innocent until proven guilty is the way things should be.

Re: Walking away

(Anonymous)
Not everyone will react in the exact same way as you when they're in a car crash. Good for you though. But how easy would it be to call someone with all those paps' cameras FLASHING AWAY in your face the whole time? Or where the paps "respectfully" standing around (doing what I have no clue)? They didn't seem to be helping anyone in the car. And it's a shame that they didn't bother to tell the people in the car that cut him off to stay, too.

Re: Walking away

(Anonymous)
You forget one important thing - we don't know what happened right AFTER the crash. The vid on x17 blurs that out and I think they did leave this part out with a reason. You presume from a video shot by and from the "reports" of the people that most likely caused Orlando to crash that Orlando simply crashed into the SUV and got out of the car seconds after?

I will quote your own words - innocent until proven guilty is the way things should be. And I give Orlando the benefit of a doubt that he did NOT simply walk away.

As far as drugs or alcohol I suspect that his celebrity may protect him from that

Just like it protected Mel Gibson, Keifer Sutherland, Nick Nolte, Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie, Lindsay Lohan etc?
If he was DUI he would have been charged just like alot of celebrities have been over the last few years. I don't see why they would cover up for him and not the others.

Re: Walking away

(Anonymous)
I suppose it is possible that the video was arranged to make him look bad except for the fact that when they tell him it would be problematic not to deal with it he says “really” and then turns around. As far as DUIs and celebrities. Look how many chances they get compared to us normal folk. How many times was Lohan and Hilton picked up before there were any consequences, My brother lives in LA, and he said it is not unusual at all for them to ask for a breath test when there is an accident that late at night and it is apparent the parties involved in an accident have been clubbing. It seems odd that Orlando was not required or asked to take one. When one of my brother’s friends did get a DUI his license was suspended for a year, he had to do community service, attend alcohol education classes and pay a huge fine. This was the first DUI they guy ever had. LA is an industry town, the celebrities and studios fuel the economy. They have more than enough money to fight these charges. I think by the time a Mel Gibson or Paris Hilton hits the news w they probably have been picked up a number of times and the problem can’t be ignored. Just because someone is great looking, and seems nice doesn’t mean they can’t do stupid and foolish things.

I'm not saying he can't do stupid things and i definately don't think he's perfect but all in all i am a fan so it is natural of me to think the best of him ;-) I just don't think the police are covering for him though. Until proven otherwise i am going to believe the statement from the LAPD that drinking, drugs and speed had nothing to do with the accident.
I do feel like i'm seeing a different video to some other people though. I just don't feel that he was fleeing the scene. He could have been wandering from shock (which i have done after a less serious accident than his), walking away to use his phone, going to look for the car that cut him off etc.

Re: Walking away

(Anonymous)
If you know that it's wrong to walk away from a crash and someone says it to you anyway, what would your reaction be? How would it be apparent to the police who only got there after the crash to know they had been clubbing? On the paps' say so? If the paps didn't say so and it was still "apparent" that they had been clubbing, wouldn't they have given him the breath test? There were filming paps looking and waiting after all. So I guess it's possible for a police cover-up but not a pap cover-up? Or would that be a police-and-pap cover-up? Paps screaming "drunk driving!" as they direct attention away from the cut-off car, but keep silent at the lack of breath test by the police? Just because the police say there was no drinking or drugs involved doesn't automatically mean they're covering-up for a celebrity.

If you know that it's wrong to walk away from a crash and someone says it to you anyway, what would your reaction be?

Exactly. And the paps didn't seem so concerned when they stod there taking photos of the injured woman or when they suggested to Orlando that if the car was drivable he should drive away in it.
IMO they wanted to put a certain spin on the accident to make the pics/video more valuable and it seems to be working.

when they tell him it would be problematic not to deal with it he says “really” and then turns around

Hmm. Because that's the same "really?" I've used when I've been threatened - as in "You'd really stoop that low?" "You'd really risk being that nasty?"

It seems odd that Orlando was not required or asked to take one.

I've covered wrecks for years, including some night wrecks, and while I believe more night wrecks are the product of drinking, the cops I've observed on the scene don't always automatically assume drinking. They generally have to smell alcohol, see bottles or cups, or observe erratic behavior before they'll take that step.

As far as DUIs and celebrities. Look how many chances they get compared to us normal folk.

Faulty syllogism.

Raul is a thief.
Raul is a black man.
Therefore, all black men are thieves.

I found it very telling that he did not return until some told him the consequences of not doing so.

You mean until one of the people playing to the camera physically stopped him and clearly enunciated that he'd be in trouble for a hit-and-run if he walked any further? With the implicit grin-and-threat of In fact, we've just made sure that's exactly what our viewers will think 'cause we just said it, heh heh?

Let's attempt to employ some logic: He's been spotted and recorded on film - knowing the camera is there - in the car, getting out of the car, walking around the car. He's instantly recognizable, and he knows it. Yet you believe he's going to run away a long distance - instead of going around the corner or across the street - after all that? I'm sure he's not genius-level, but I seriously doubt he's severely mentally retarded.

Be sure to buy these tabloids when they hit the stands, by the way. You want to make sure your favorite "journalists" continue to earn more than honest working reporters for Reuters, NPR, and the AP.

I don't know why Orlando fans is making such a big deal of this. The media seems to have moved on already. He got about 2 to 4 minutes of coverage on the entertainment shows and will probably get a page in the weekly tabloids. The haters on blogs hate on every celebrity so it should be no surprise that they hate on Orlando. Personally I'm annoyed with the attention he's getting right now. It's all about him dating this girl and that girl and clubbing and crashing and it all seems so frivolous. It's his life but I wish his so called vacation was little quieter.

I don't know why Orlando fans is making such a big deal of this.

I'm betting it's the trolls posing as fans making a deal of it. I haven't looked too far, but I have looked at one other message board, and there are no trolls there - there are people questioning his actions, but not the blatant "you fans are stupid, he's automatically guilty 'cause he's rich and cute" happening here. And there's less traffic around it, and it has died out.

Personally I'm annoyed with the attention he's getting right now. It's all about him dating this girl and that girl and clubbing and crashing and it all seems so frivolous.

Amen. Wake me when he has a new movie filming or another play in the works.

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